7:52 Justinwhat has happened recently is that Reddit has kind of disappeared from the ChatGPT citations. It used to be the number one source, I believe it was Reddit followed by YouTube, followed by Capterra and a wide range of other citations.
7:52 Justinthere were so many companies investing in Reddit marketing strategies, hiring Reddit marketing agencies, boots on the ground commenting in all the forums on Reddit, so they would get cited by LLMs.
11:51 Justinwhat this graph is showing is Reddit citations falling off a cliff here on August 14th.
11:51 JustinWhen you search something in ChatGPT, Claude, Perplexity, et cetera, typically you'd see a lot of Reddit citations coming up, and now it looks like it's trending towards zero.
11:51 JustinThink about your marketing like investing. You wouldn't invest all of your money into Bitcoin. You'd prefer to be diversified in real estate, stocks, bonds, cash, so that if anything happens to any one of your investments, you're still hedged against that unsystematic risk.
8:57 Justinas a business owner, should you still be investing in SEO? Absolutely. You absolutely should continue to invest in SEO, but more importantly, you should be investing in telling your brand story at scale.
9:48 IanTo invest in Reddit only is a mistake. To invest in anything that's a third-party platform only is a mistake, because I've seen Google do this, I've seen so many platforms make a fickle change, and suddenly your entire business model's out the door.
14:20 JustinReddit is walling off content to essentially force whoever wants to train on their data to pay for it. You can't just endlessly scrape their decades of really rich content. So I think the era of free training data is ending.
11:51 JustinI recommend using Echo Check for staying on top of how you're ranking on LLMs, that's a tool that Ian built in-house that's been very helpful for growing our businesses.